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Frozen Chosen: Episcopalians and Anglicans
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The Perfect World >> Values & Beliefs >> Frozen Chosen: Episcopalians and Anglicans

Frozen Chosen: Episcopalians and Anglicans

Clio -- Sunday, June 08, 2003 -- 05:19:17 PM

For discussion of anything related to the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion

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Clio -- Sunday, June 08, 2003 -- 05:20:11 PM -- 1 of 1059
"New Orleans, she smells like summer rain, sweet olive and coffee." -Chris Rose

To start of with something controversial:

New Hampshire Episcopalians choose gay bishop

CalGal -- Sunday, June 08, 2003 -- 05:44:51 PM -- 2 of 1059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

These are the liberal protestants, yes?

Roy Kay -- Sunday, June 08, 2003 -- 06:36:31 PM -- 3 of 1059
Sluttius Maximus

They are sometime call Episcopagans. The one who most stands out in my mund from TT is TDub.

Clio -- Sunday, June 08, 2003 -- 06:36:55 PM -- 4 of 1059
"New Orleans, she smells like summer rain, sweet olive and coffee." -Chris Rose

Yes.

The General Convention has been skirting around this issue for years. They debate it and then table because it's too divisive. Now, they won't really be able to avoid it because they have to vote on whether or not to approve his election.

TAFKA -- Sunday, June 08, 2003 -- 07:25:31 PM -- 5 of 1059
That moment when you have so much shit to do that you decide not to do any of it

Roy, you ever see TDub, tell her hey and I wish she'd drop in here sometime. The Gross thread just isn't complete without her.

Weaver -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 12:18:25 AM -- 6 of 1059

These are the liberal protestants, yes?

In America, yes, depending upon what you mean by liberal, of course.

A lot of Anglicans, particularly those who are quite as WASPish, think the Episcopalians aren't liberal, they are heterodox. This feeling is strong enough to create awhole different sort of disruption.

InTheRed -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 01:45:23 AM -- 7 of 1059
One can excel at housework or sex. Never both.

I'm wondering too why Anglican and Episcopalian would be lumped together.

Sakti -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 01:48:53 AM -- 8 of 1059

Because they're basically the same church. Episcopalian is what you call Anglican when it's not in Angle-land.

Nicola O. -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 05:40:39 AM -- 9 of 1059
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Episcopalian is a fun word to say. Whenever I hear it, I'm reminded of a line from a bad movie. Faced with impending disaster, one character asks the other, "Are you a religious man?" He replies, "Good God no, man, I'm Episcopalian!"

InTheRed -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 06:19:49 AM -- 10 of 1059
One can excel at housework or sex. Never both.

Very different in my experience. The Episcopalian women I know do not cut their hair or wear pants or make-up, etc. What Weaver said.

Arlene Green -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 06:26:23 AM -- 11 of 1059
Moulton inspires metanoia.

Episcopalians with a dress code?

Where are you?!?!

InTheRed -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 06:28:24 AM -- 12 of 1059
One can excel at housework or sex. Never both.

Canada. Have seen this on the east and west coast. Some sort of spin-off from the Pentecostal church that refer to themselves as Episcopalian.

Clio -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 06:39:12 AM -- 13 of 1059
"New Orleans, she smells like summer rain, sweet olive and coffee." -Chris Rose

Oh, we're talking about a very different thing, then. In the US, the Episcopal Church broke off from the Church of England during the Revolution. But it is still very much a part of the Anglican tradition - use a version of the Book of Common Prayer and bishops are ordained in apostolic succession. Like other Anglicans, we consider the Archbishop of Canterbury to be our spiritual leader.

Clio -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 06:39:22 AM -- 14 of 1059
"New Orleans, she smells like summer rain, sweet olive and coffee." -Chris Rose

And I feel the need to explain the thread title. It's a joking way my priest refers to Episcopalians - playing on the stereotype of them as staid, upper class, WASPy types who sit stolidly in their pews, revealing no emotion or religious enthusiasm.

Arlene Green -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 06:46:56 AM -- 15 of 1059
Moulton inspires metanoia.

InTheRed-

Weird. They certainly aren't part of the general Synod. Most Episcopal churches don't even require women to wear hats to service any longer.

Church dress codes are a special interest of mine.

Wesleyan churches have all kinds of variants that require weird rules or quibble on apostolic gift requirements but High Church is pretty uniform on the outside. Or so I thought. Now I have to go read up on these pentecostal episcopalians.

terrilynn -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 01:55:21 PM -- 16 of 1059
The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea. (Isak Dinesen)

Clio, I laughed out loud when I saw your thread title, since Father Bob mentioned that very thing in his sermon yesterday. He was riffing on the How Many <insert denomination here> Does it Take to Change a Light Bulb?

BTW, the Episcopalian answer is three; one to call the electrician, one to mix the drinks, and one to wax nostalgic about the way it used to be.

rtb -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 02:57:32 PM -- 17 of 1059
Live from New York!

Heh. My uncle is a Father Bob in the Epicopal church and I can easily see him riffing on jokes in a sermon. And that joke answer is perfect.

In fact, he (my uncle) forwarded a whole bunch of articles on the new archbishop to me today, but I think I just tossed them.

Biscuit -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 03:38:19 PM -- 18 of 1059
LITTLE PINK SOCK / LITTLE PINK SOCK

Wow, ITR, I'm in Canada and I've never heard of any Episcopalians up here, especially any kind of ultraconservative type. It's all CofE/Anglican, all the time.

Mistress Manners -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 03:45:49 PM -- 19 of 1059
Still in the running towards becoming America's Next Top Model.

Biscuit: Well, you can imagine that "Church of England" wouldn't be taken very well down here, given the revolution and all. So instead, a hard to spell name.

Biscuit -- Monday, June 09, 2003 -- 04:01:35 PM -- 20 of 1059
LITTLE PINK SOCK / LITTLE PINK SOCK

Oh, I get it, MM - I was actually replying to InTheRed's comment about the really conservative "Episcopalians". I'd just never seen any Epis. up here at all.

I think it's all run by the same big Eastern syndicate, though </Lucy van Pelt>, since the "welcome" signs in front of the Anglican churches here are nearly identical to the Episcopalian ones I've seen in the States.

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