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Teaching for Fun and Profit

dirt track date -- Thursday, May 22, 2003 -- 10:51:25 PM

Careers in teaching and education from preschool to grad school.

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CalGal -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 06:35:39 PM -- 2694 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Does this video work?

This particular tape is blurry--my actual PACT clips are much clearer. But I think my response here is pretty funny.

Tonks -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 07:19:07 PM -- 2695 of 4059
I find that A] tremendously comforting that we're so close and B] like Chinese water torture that we're so close.

Works for me, Cal.

CalGal -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 07:20:10 PM -- 2696 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Good, thanks!

Did you hear what I said to the kid? I dunno, it just amuses me.

Tonks -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 07:38:25 PM -- 2697 of 4059
I find that A] tremendously comforting that we're so close and B] like Chinese water torture that we're so close.

I can't quite make it out. Clue me in?

CalGal -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 07:40:09 PM -- 2698 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

A boy gets up for no reason and fake hits the kid at another table with a yardstick. I take it from him, all without stopping once, and say "What are you doing?" and he sits down obediently. It just strikes me as funny.

Sparky -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 07:48:46 PM -- 2699 of 4059
Lyte me!

I didn't get it. ( too much background noise for me)

CalGal -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 07:50:16 PM -- 2700 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

No, it's audible. At least on my PC and a few others I've sent it to. But mostly I wanted to know if I could link it on my site.

Sparky -- Sunday, May 03, 2009 -- 08:06:49 PM -- 2701 of 4059
Lyte me!

I didn't mean it wasn't audible; it certainly is; but what I heard was "put that down" and something else I couldn't understand as you took the yardstick and turned away.

sweet pea -- Monday, May 04, 2009 -- 03:45:44 AM -- 2702 of 4059
I hate it when I'm inflexible about things that are stupid.

I heard the 'what are you doing?' I didn't 'get it' at first, but do now.

Kids are so funny.

CalGal -- Monday, May 04, 2009 -- 04:07:03 AM -- 2703 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

He is the weirdest kid. A junior, he refuses to do homework and screws around during tests. He knows how to do the math, but doesn't like to work. I don't count homework for much, which helped his grade a lot.

Back in January, he sat quietly during a unit test and turned in an empty paper. I ferociously ordered him back to his seat and made him to sit in at lunch and take the test.

While he was working (in considerable shock), I told him, "Yeah, I know you're okay with getting an D or an F. But giving you an F in math would be a lie, and I WILL NOT LIE about you. If I have to make you hork up math like a furball, then that's what you will do. Are we clear?"

He has a face like a cat and often smirks like one, but not that day. He nodded quietly and left after handing over a completed test that got him a much higher grade.

Since then, he's still nutty. Some days, he sleeps through class. Still other days, he does things like pretend to hit a classmate with a yardstick, or draw "gangsta ninja kitties" all over his paper. But periodically I tell him he must work the entire period and participate with others, and he nods obediently and works his ass off.

He tries to assert his power during tests while not activating my wrath. When I try to look over his shoulder, he covers his paper and looks at me sternly. "No cheating!" he admonishes me. Then he tries to do an adequate job--enough to satisfy me but for his pride's sake, he'll leave a few empty questions. I hand it back to him and tell him he does know how to do those problems. He sighs heavily and trudges back to his seat--and returns with the problems done correctly.

I've had a lot of success stories this year, but he's the biggest win. Assuming he doesn't find some way to get himself expelled simply to avoid the embarrassment of a high grade.

dirt track date -- Monday, May 04, 2009 -- 06:11:55 AM -- 2704 of 4059
Shit is fucked up and bullshit

God love you Cal. I love that you kicked his ass like that--the fact that he went back and did the work speaks volumes.

One of the teachers at R's high school, the one who teaches AP calc, refuses to count homework in the grade. Her view is that whether or not you worked on problem sets will show up on the tests, and by the way that's how college works.

The boys do really well with her because she does not micromanage. She has been doing this long enough that she as a rehab program for the kids who go "whee!! no homework" and fail tests because they aren't doing the problem sets.

CalGal -- Tuesday, May 05, 2009 -- 12:55:36 AM -- 2705 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

But there are the kids who don't do the homework and don't fail the tests.

that's the case with at least 30% of most math classes.

dirt track date -- Tuesday, May 05, 2009 -- 02:48:32 AM -- 2706 of 4059
Shit is fucked up and bullshit

She doesn't care though--if you pass the tests she figures you know what you are doing.

Lizzie T. -- Friday, May 15, 2009 -- 10:08:07 PM -- 2707 of 4059
Oh, for crying out loud.

Boy just found out today that a kid he taught his second year of teaching, a kid he really enjoyed and always characterized as one of the five smartest kids he's taught, died of a drug overdose in his dorm room a few months ago.

Boy really really liked this kid, and vice versa. The kid's mom asked Boy to write him a recommendation for private school; Boy had given this kid special projects to do throughout the school year and the kid's parents wrote Boy a really excellent letter at the end of the year, thanking him for challenging their son in a way no other teacher ever had.

He's pretty upset about it, as am I. Such a waste. He's going to write the kid's parents.

JL Finch -- Monday, May 18, 2009 -- 03:13:42 PM -- 2708 of 4059
What in the Sam Hill am I doing?

God, how awful. So sorry for Boy.

CalGal -- Saturday, May 23, 2009 -- 05:27:10 AM -- 2709 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Man, I am having a hard time applying for teaching positions. It's so bad that I find myself tonight looking for programming jobs, which is perverse.

It's so...ideological. And it's so interchangeable.

Ironically, I'm finally doing well in school and yet I am convinced I won't find a job. So convinced that I really haven't bothered looking.

Ase -- Saturday, May 23, 2009 -- 07:30:52 AM -- 2710 of 4059
"Cold cold empty void", "Grandma's food for worms now". Atheist hymns, by Jamie R.

Do you need a kick in the ass? I mean, I would give you a cheerful peptalk, as is my wont, but that will only piss you off. Come to think of it, perhaps that would be good.

There will be nutcase ideological shit (hell, my parents STILL talk about that, and they retired 17 years ago...). Kids must be taught. Might as well be by you.

CalGal -- Saturday, May 23, 2009 -- 07:37:51 AM -- 2711 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

No, I mean the interview process is ideological. It's horrible. And they are interviewing people who are technically identical and can't be considered better or worse.

I got a call from a client of mine who is a venture capitalist and he asked if I could talk to a team of his people about a product they want to make--it involved all my areas of expertise, including education and college admissions. It felt so much better to be the expert called in to give opinions.

I'm just having a panic attack, but if they called me for a job, I'd take it. Which is stupid, because I would much rather teach.

sweet pea -- Monday, May 25, 2009 -- 05:57:18 PM -- 2712 of 4059
I hate it when I'm inflexible about things that are stupid.

Of course it's ideological and horrible. But not really any more horrible than much of grad school has been. And it isn't like you don't know what to say; you just don't want to have to say it. Head into interviewing with the same attitude you applied to grad school with - it'll be unpleasant but after it's over, you'll be able to do what you want.

CalGal -- Monday, May 25, 2009 -- 06:05:46 PM -- 2713 of 4059
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

I know. But the market is really bad out there, too.

And Edjoin is a frigging joke! I thought it was an actual online service. Ha, ha, very fucking ha.

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