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Life Upon the Wicked Stage - All Things Theatrical

Melusina -- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 -- 04:32:47 PM

The place to discuss theatre: shows you've seen, shows you're working on, your experiences in the theatre, what have you.

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Melusina -- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 -- 11:43:24 AM -- 1 of 1174
Isn't it nice to know a lot? And a little bit, not. (Stephen Sondheim)

I was in London last month and saw 3 wonderful productions:

1. 12th Night done at the restored Globe. The stated goal of the production was to duplicate (as much as possible) an authentic Elizabethan performance. All the roles were played by men, they used period music and dance, the costumes were built using period tailoring and only materials that would have been available in Shakespeare's time, etc. It was the perfect production to see in that setting, and I really enjoyed it, despite disagreeing with some of the stylistic choices.

2. The premiere of Stoppards new play Shipwreck. It's the second in a new trilogy about 19th century Russian intellectuals / proto-communists / socialists. Like all Stoppard, it's a play of ideas, but the characters are so fleshed out that it all becomes concrete and engaging. It was absolutely fabulous - I'm just sorry that I couldn't see the other two plays (they're performing them in a rotation - a different play each week and all plays in a marathon on Saturdays).

3. The RSC's production of Much Ado - enjoyable, but not outstanding (Branagh set the benchmark here). It was set in 1930's Italy and the concept worked fairly well (the messenger entered on a loud motorcycle, disrupting the quiet village life). Their Beatrice was also quite good.

Marsie Dotes -- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 -- 06:55:56 AM -- 2 of 1174
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Thanks for the thread, Melusina!

Was the production of Much Ado at Regent's Park? I saw a summer production of the same play there back in 1980 and loved it. Then I took my husband back to see Midsummer Night's Dream in 1989, and we got rained out. It was dumb anyway--done in late 60's hippie style.

I just went to the first readthrough for my first play in a long long time. I'm going to play Miss Hannigan in a community production of Annie. It is a part I have coveted for some time and I am thrilled. The part is quite a release. I can't wait to belt out Easy Street!

Melusina -- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 -- 07:14:29 AM -- 3 of 1174
Isn't it nice to know a lot? And a little bit, not. (Stephen Sondheim)

Thanks for posting, Marsie - I was beginning to think I was the only one who wanted to talk about theatre!

Much Ado was at the Haymarket. I can't remember what they were doing at Regent's Park, but we couldn't fit it in. We were in London for 4 days and we saw a candlelit concert at St. Martin's-in-the-Field, the Stoppard play, the matinee at the Globe, and Much Ado. We did manage to squeeze in some non-performance related activities, but not many!

I bet you'll have fun with Annie. It's a fun play and Miss Hannigan is probably the the most fun role to play (as an adult - I think every girl I knew wanted to play Annie when I was 12). I'll be interested to hear how rehearsals go.

I'm a director and I'm in the process of forming a non-profit theatre company with a guy I know from grad school. I'll be Artistic Director and he'll be Managing Director. We're planning on hiring a small company of actors and doing very stripped down performances of Shakespeare at local high schools (simple costume pieces and hand props, no scenery). We'll also offer some educational material for the teachers to use in the classroom, and lead discussions after the plays. We've qualified for not for profit status and begun to do some fund raising and grant proposals. We're scheduled to participate in a children's theatre festival in March and we hope to start touring the schools next school year. I'm very excited about it.

Marsie Dotes -- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 -- 07:27:54 AM -- 4 of 1174
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Your project sounds really cool. You'd like the director from our production. She is setting up a children's theater company in the low income part of town. Her concept is an afterschool program, complete with transportation from school. The kids participate in theatrical productions entirely rehearsed at afterschool. The cost is minimal. She's a real visionary.

My brother teaches English in an afterschool program in Tokyo. He uses Shakespeare's plays, at times, to make the learning process more fun.

Melusina -- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 -- 08:50:53 AM -- 5 of 1174
Isn't it nice to know a lot? And a little bit, not. (Stephen Sondheim)

That sounds like a really neat project that your director is setting up. I think that kind of stuff is so good for kids.

CalGal -- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 -- 11:32:09 AM -- 6 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

I wonder if GJ saw this thread? He is a hound for Broadway musicals.

Marsie Dotes -- Thursday, September 05, 2002 -- 08:11:45 AM -- 7 of 1174
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Send him around!

Marsie Dotes -- Sunday, September 22, 2002 -- 07:51:04 PM -- 8 of 1174
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NOOOOOO! Archived already?

Lila Jones -- Monday, September 23, 2002 -- 08:46:47 AM -- 9 of 1174

I just saw Metamorphoses at Circle on the Square. Terrific production. The stage is taken up almost entirely by a shallow pool of water, which gets deeper as the actors move toward the audience.

They pulled together several stories: Orpheus turning around while exiting the underworld with his love, King Midas accidentally turning his child to gold, what'shername losing her husband to a storm at sea (dramatized by Poseidon's thugs wrestling him into the water) and then grieving so continuously that the gods took pity, and sent her a dream to convince her that her husband was really dead. That one made me cry.

Also, Phaeton trying to drive his dad's chariot across the heavens, Psyche sneaking in to look at Cupid while he slept, and a couple others. Very well done.

Melusina -- Monday, September 23, 2002 -- 10:25:42 AM -- 10 of 1174
Isn't it nice to know a lot? And a little bit, not. (Stephen Sondheim)

Very cool, Lila. The water sounds great - I love "real" stuff on stage.

I'm looking for scripts for a project I'd like to do at my church. I'd appreciate any suggestions of plays that are family appropriate and Christian themed (although they do not have to be explicitly so).

CalGal -- Monday, September 23, 2002 -- 02:48:50 PM -- 11 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

Joan Littlewood dies

RainCityChick -- Sunday, September 29, 2002 -- 10:13:43 PM -- 12 of 1174
in dreams begin responsibilities

I'm looking for scripts for a project I'd like to do at my church. I'd appreciate any suggestions of plays that are family appropriate and Christian themed (although they do not have to be explicitly so).

Melusina--send me an e-mail. DH is a career actor/director/theatre management type and has specialized in faith-based theatre. We can give you some tips--let us know how many cast members you are limited to; musical or not; etc....

We can also refer you to a local member of Christians in Theatre Arts--a very cool international networking organization.

Marsie Dotes -- Monday, September 30, 2002 -- 05:20:51 AM -- 13 of 1174
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Well, I'm doing a "club time" drama and improv group for my daughter's middle school. These kids are a scream. Ask them to improv a scene, and they pick: "So do you want to go to the mall?" Cluestick!

Lila Jones -- Wednesday, October 09, 2002 -- 11:47:01 AM -- 14 of 1174

Bump. I just want this thread to come to the top, so Annie G. will post her review of "Into the Woods". Have you gone yet?

Marsie Dotes -- Sunday, October 20, 2002 -- 04:36:01 PM -- 15 of 1174
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So things on the set of "Annie," the show I'm doing in community theater are beginning to get frenetic. The first cast opens on Nov 1, so people are understandably a little edgy. Most of the adults are in the run for the long hall, but I am only in the second run, beginning after Thanksgiving. We have a second set of orphans and Annie for that show as well. I am doing one performance for the other Miss Hannigan in November as she has to be out of town on business. So while I want to master the role, I've got a little more time.

The group is really nice and there is lots of talent there, but I think the blocking is pretty dull. I've tried to keep my trap shut, but sometimes it is tough. The director and her staff are devoting a great deal of time to the kids and leaving most of the adults to just figure things out for themselves. I've noticed several people just kinda doing things on their own and no one seems to care. On the other hand, the choreographer is just the opposite--she'll give you line for line interpretation for each song, as well as your steps. Irritating!

Marsie Dotes -- Tuesday, January 07, 2003 -- 02:35:09 PM -- 16 of 1174
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Responding to palmist:

Annie was a blast, and went by too quickly. It had been 12 years since I had done anything except directing kids' shows at school, and I cannot let that much time go by again! I was heartened by the warm response (and a few comparisons to Carol Burnett), and found that a year of voice lessons have given me a passable character actress voice. The next show I'll audition for is "The Pajama Game" next summer. Hernando's Hideaway, anyone?

palmist -- Tuesday, January 07, 2003 -- 02:49:01 PM -- 17 of 1174

Glad to hear it was a good experience. I was sure you'd be great. I thought of you last week, when I overheard some furclad matron complaining to her son on the Metro the other day. She was just a heartbeat away from moaning, "Just throw me out like the empty cans of Bumblebee tuna, and let the pussycats walk all over me!"

Marsie Dotes -- Tuesday, January 07, 2003 -- 03:13:44 PM -- 18 of 1174
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Lord love you, I'd give a left arm to play that part again! "But what's the difference, I'm only a mother and for a mother a Trailways bus is good enough!"

Lois -- Friday, January 10, 2003 -- 11:52:26 AM -- 19 of 1174

It may be a bit ridiculous to post about plays I saw over three months ago, but I just saw this thread. The first post was about plays in London, so I thought I'd add mine. I saw these in mid-late Sept/02. I've added the prices to dispell the myth that London theatre has to be enormously expensive. Considering the productions all have great sets, and the lengths of the plays, I think the prices are excellent.

  • Uncle Vanya (Chekhov, at Donemar Warehouse in Covent Garden) (5 pounds, had to stand)
  • Midsummer Night's Dream (Globe Theatre) (5 pounds, had to stand)
  • The Coast of Utopia: Shipwreck (Tom Stoppard, Royal National Theatre - one of a trilogy ofStoppard three plays focusing on the Russianaristocracy ca. 1850. Melusina also saw this one. (10 pounds, reasonable seat, but not the best)
  • My Fair Lady (Drury Lane Theatre Royal) (7 pounds, seat had a slightly restricted view due to the balcony, but I could just lean forward a touch if I wanted)
  • Ivanov (Chekhov, again at one of the three RoyalNational Theatre sites on the Southbank) (10 pounds, reasonable seat, but not the best)
  • Les Miserables (Palace Theatre) (7.5 pounds, slightly restricted view)
  • The Golden Ass (an author who I can't recall who inspired Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream, Globe Theatre) (5 pounds, standing)

All were excellent productions. I'm not a picky critic, so I may have missed the shortcomings. I mostly had a sense that the directors paid a great deal of attention to making even small details perfect. I have seen Stoppard's Arcadia done not so well and so I was a bit concerned about Shipwreck, but it was very engaging.

Marsie Dotes -- Friday, January 10, 2003 -- 07:47:28 PM -- 20 of 1174
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I have an unnatural love for Tom Stoppard, and see far too little of his work.

At the beginning of next month, we have tickets for Les Mis. My kids know the plot because we have listened to the CD ad nauseum in the car, but they've never seen it. My eldest turns 12 at the end of this month, and our tickets are part of her birthday gift. My mother just saw the same tour show in DC and called to tell me that it is an excellent production. I admit I stood in line the first day tickets were available and secured six seats in the third row (owing to the fact that this is a special occasion and I have to keep a 6 year old interested in the production) and I am far too embarassed to tell you what I paid for the tickets.

CalGal -- Friday, January 10, 2003 -- 09:03:18 PM -- 21 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

Have you gotten the CD and played it for the 6 year old? Knowing the music will go a long, long way, and that was very wise to get right up front.

I've never seen Les Mis and don't know the story (beyond the standard) but that one song that the E character sings is absolutely beautiful. I've never known why it didn't become a classic and I have to listen to Memories all the time.

Marsie Dotes -- Saturday, January 11, 2003 -- 07:43:07 AM -- 22 of 1174
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The six year old has the CD committed to memory. She loves singing "the song of angry men", and will be mesmerized by much of the action, but I wanted to be up front for the quieter, emotional scenes. They will hold her interest better than if we are not in the second balcony.

Cal, you should really try and see the show. There are some gorgeous moments--truly thrilling theater. I love the "I Dreamed a Dream" number beyond understanding. The first time I saw the show (this will be my third), I was in tears within 15 minutes of the overture because that song (about losing her childhood to a dashing but unfaithful lover) touched me so deeply. The second time I saw the show, I was a parent and viewed it from a different perspective. I'd better remember to pack the kleenex this time. My husband got tired of me wiping my eyes on his sweater last time.

CalGal -- Saturday, January 11, 2003 -- 09:27:15 AM -- 23 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

Oh, I'm calling you wise and perspicacious for getting the upfront seats. I have long resolved not to go to concerts or plays unless I can sit that close, because I simply don't enjoy them.

On My Own is the song I like. The melody is just gorgeous.

Lois -- Saturday, January 11, 2003 -- 11:02:12 AM -- 24 of 1174

I generally enjoy the view from the balcony -- but it really depends on how the theatre is laid out.

Lila Jones -- Saturday, January 11, 2003 -- 12:03:53 PM -- 25 of 1174

To appreciate choreography, I like being on the mezzanine level. If you're too close, you lose all sense of the patterns on the stage.

But I still think that you're very smart to get up close and personal for the six-year-old's benefit, Marsie.

LC -- Saturday, January 11, 2003 -- 12:17:05 PM -- 26 of 1174
"Poor LC, with her chakras all kerflooey." -Binny

Les Mis was the second Broadway musical I ever saw (the first was Anything Goes, with Faith Prince). I still remember the thrill.

"On My Own" was very, very popular as an audition number when I was in college. I remember my roommate coming home from auditions almost weeping with hysteria, because someone screwed up the lyrics and sang "the streets are bare and everywhere the trees are full of strangers!". Brought the house down, just not the way she meant to.

CalGal -- Saturday, January 11, 2003 -- 12:47:28 PM -- 27 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

hahaha!

I can't stand theater because I can't see a damn thing, which is why I like sitting up close. Fuck choreography; that's why they make movies.

palmist -- Monday, January 13, 2003 -- 10:00:37 AM -- 28 of 1174

I once saw some Neil Simon thing, the one about the composers, from the second balcony, and I hated the experience. All I could see were the tops of their heads that the tops of their shoes. Faces! I like to see faces! Ever since then, I've sprung for orchestra seats.

Melusina -- Monday, January 13, 2003 -- 11:57:53 AM -- 29 of 1174
Isn't it nice to know a lot? And a little bit, not. (Stephen Sondheim)

I've gotten terribly behind on all my subscriptions and I'm just catching up on this thread. Marsie - I'm glad that Annie went well, and that you'll be auditioning for more plays. Lois, I was interested to hear about the shows you saw in London. I was wishing you'd seen one of the other Stoppard plays, so you could tell what the rest of the trilogy is like.

No news to report on any fronts here. I've had to temporarily shelve all things theatrical in my life due to my pregnancy, work, and my efforts to go back to school (to get a PhD in English, with a specialization in drama). I'm still hoping to get my Shakespeare company off the ground, because I think it's a worthwhile idea, but the time table has been extended quite a bit at this point.

palmist -- Monday, January 13, 2003 -- 12:06:31 PM -- 30 of 1174

I now recall that the play was "They're Playing Our Song", which I quite enjoyed on subsequent viewing, from better seats.

Lois -- Monday, January 13, 2003 -- 12:09:32 PM -- 31 of 1174

I wish I had seen the other two shows in the Stoppard trilogy also, Melusina. It was interesting that I happened to see two Chekhov shows both of which featured late 19th-century Russian landowners on the decline, and then the Stoppard show was about the Russian land-owning class ca. 1850. I thought the staging of the Stoppard play was very interesting, with a projection screen. It's described here like this:

With the action set in Moscow, St Petersburg, London and Paris, designer William Dudley has used ground-breaking 3-D video projection to cast moving images across the stage of smoke, rain, snow and a pine forest through which actors can appear.

With all that, I have to say one of the more memorable moments was the nude actress with her absolutely perfect body. Seeing that reminded me of how far I fall short. Oh well.

Melusina -- Monday, January 13, 2003 -- 12:23:17 PM -- 32 of 1174
Isn't it nice to know a lot? And a little bit, not. (Stephen Sondheim)

The projection screen blew me away too, Lois, especially the combination of the projections of windows for the interior scenes with the gobboes of the window frames on the lights (which gave the impression that the light was actually shining through the nonexistant windows). The set wasn't exactly kitchen sink realism, but it managed to be very evocative of the many different places in which the action occured. I would love to see all three plays back to back, but I'm not sure when I'll get the chance - I'm not planning on going back to London for 18 months or so, and I doubt it will still be playing then.

It was interesting seeing the play in that space (the Olivier Stage at the National Theatre) because it's the only stage in the world which is designed like the stage in my undergraduate theater. The same person designed both spaces and they are identical - circular stages with a built in revolve and elevator system. The stage is split so that one half can drop to one of two levels (an intermediate set changing level or the scene shop). The seating is modular so that you can do audience all around the stage, 3/4's or proscenium style. It's an incredibly flexible design and useful for all sorts of more contemporary staging.

Lois -- Thursday, January 16, 2003 -- 02:23:55 PM -- 33 of 1174

I went to see this production of Inspector Hound, another Stoppard play, last night. As I mentioned earlier, my impression is that Stoppard is really hard to do well. I think the production was as good as you can expect for a community theatre, though, and parts of it were very funny. I haven't seen The Mousetrap, and from bits I heard after the show there may be a parody element. Anyone know?

CalGal -- Friday, February 21, 2003 -- 05:41:34 PM -- 34 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

A friend gave me Elaine Stritch: At Liberty for Christmas, and it is a simply wonderful recording of her Tony-winning "event". Not to be missed.

CalGal -- Friday, February 28, 2003 -- 07:24:14 PM -- 35 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

Les Miz is Closing

Marsie Dotes -- Sunday, April 20, 2003 -- 10:06:42 PM -- 36 of 1174
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It hurts my heart that this thread isn't more active. I love the theater, have just re-entered the arena locally and cannot wait to do more. I just don't want to monopolize conversation. Of late, we have seen a marvelous high school production of Chicago, a community theater production of Once Upon a Mattress, and just missed getting into As You Like It at the local rep. theater. It's getting easier to do this as the kids get older.

In December, I was able to realize a long time dream by playing Miss Hannigan in Annie. I've talked my family into meshing summer vacation plans around the production of Pajama Game that is upcoming if I am lucky (talented) enough to be cast. It's amazing, I hadn't done anything since I was pregnant with my eldest, then one show and I'm addicted again. The problem, of course, is the impact on family life, but I'm picking and choosing carefully so we'll see how it goes.

Has anyone seen the stage show for PJ Game? I've asked to read the script, but no one seems to have a spare copy to loan me as yet.

CalGal -- Monday, April 21, 2003 -- 01:39:41 AM -- 37 of 1174
I'd much rather argue than make money.

I think Pajama Game was the first or second live show I ever saw; a community theater version back in Saudi Arabia. I never forgot the song "Seven and a Half Percent" for some reason. I just saw the movie recently. Very interesting, the whole pro-union message.

Can you find a script online? What part are you interested in?

Kay -- Monday, April 21, 2003 -- 03:03:20 AM -- 38 of 1174

It hurts my heart that this thread isn't more active. I love the theater, have just re-entered the arena locally and cannot wait to do more.

Costs too much, easier to watch TV.

gsand -- Monday, April 21, 2003 -- 03:55:12 AM -- 39 of 1174

I just discovered this thread. I've been seeing a lot of theater lately. Virtually all of it local, much of it quite bad, and a few really remarkable shows.

This play was truly fantastic. I thought about it for days afterwards.

Marsie Dotes -- Monday, April 21, 2003 -- 07:21:39 AM -- 40 of 1174
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Cal,

I've tried searching for the script online. I think scripts are fairly strictly protected so that groups cannot produce the show without paying royalties. I like the role (blanking on the character name) with the song "Hernando's Hideaway". Also the character who sings "I would trust her" with Haynsie.

gsand, that play looks interesting. I love Jonathon Silverman.

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