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From Russia With Love: The Muscovite Candidate
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From Russia With Love: The Muscovite Candidate

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, March 16, 2017 -- 04:22:50 PM

We all know Putin hacked the US election and put Donald "Golden Showers" Trump in as a puppet, don't we?

Maybe not, but I wanted to create this thread just for the title alone.

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Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, March 16, 2017 -- 04:26:57 PM -- 1 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

It's commies all the way down

"The senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin," McCain bluntly said of Paul on the Senate floor following the dust-up.

Sure it might violate Senate decorum, but in times like these, even McCarthyite tactics are de rigueur.

The spectre of Putin is haunting America!

Pincher Martin -- Friday, March 17, 2017 -- 02:25:41 AM -- 2 of 13
"The worst enemy of human hope is not brute facts, but men of brains who will not face them." - Max Eastman

...even McCarthyite tactics are de rigueur.

At least McCarthy was generally right about there being commies in the U.S government in the 1950s. We know that for a fact now. I'm not sure there is a single Putinista in the U.S. government, and I'm positive Trump ain't one.

All this hysteria from McCain because Rand Paul dared to vote against another small Eastern European country joining NATO and getting the full protection of the U.S. military. Why the fuck should anyone in the U.S. care about Montenegro?

Nicholas Kronos -- Wednesday, May 17, 2017 -- 09:00:36 PM -- 3 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

Well...this topic won't seem to go away, even if the thread never got much traction.

Here we are two months later and can pose some new questions:

1) Do you believe Comey when Comey reports that Trump expressed to him the hope that Comey could "let [the Flynn investigation] go"?

2) If Trump did, does that rise to the level of obstruction of justice?

3) Is it a smoking gun regarding Trump's firing of Comey? In other words, does Trump's firing of Comey become obstruction of justice?

Likewise:

1) Do you believe Trump gave information to the Russians he shouldn't have?

2) Does it matter if he did?

3) If so, what should be the remedy?

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, May 18, 2017 -- 01:07:39 AM -- 4 of 13
"The worst enemy of human hope is not brute facts, but men of brains who will not face them." - Max Eastman

1) Yes.

2) No, but depends on details. Expressing a hope is not obstruction of justice.

3) No. Flynn was long gone when Trump fired Comey.

*****

1) Yes.

2) Was it illegal? No. Was it stupid and potentially negligent? Yes.

3) If not a crime, let the people decide in 2018 and 2020.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, May 18, 2017 -- 05:06:34 AM -- 5 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

Thanks for the straight-up answers.

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, May 18, 2017 -- 05:44:03 AM -- 6 of 13
"The worst enemy of human hope is not brute facts, but men of brains who will not face them." - Max Eastman

Directly related to Question #2: Comey Under Oath: ‘Have Not Experienced Any Requests to Stop FBI Investigations’

And that was last month, *after* the reported interaction between Trump and Comey over Flynn.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, May 18, 2017 -- 02:10:33 PM -- 7 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

before the reported interaction

You mean "after," right?

Comey says the "I hope you can let this go" happened in February.

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, May 18, 2017 -- 04:56:10 PM -- 8 of 13
"The worst enemy of human hope is not brute facts, but men of brains who will not face them." - Max Eastman

Yes. Thank you.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, May 18, 2017 -- 09:22:06 PM -- 9 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

Omigosh...these people...

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, July 13, 2017 -- 07:53:13 PM -- 10 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

Wow...Time does it again:

Nicholas Kronos -- Tuesday, September 19, 2017 -- 05:13:39 AM -- 11 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

US government wiretapped Trump campaign chairman

Imagine a revelation like this in the reverse (GWB wiretapped David Axelrod in 2008).

Despite all my unhappiness at having Trump as President, getting the lawless gang known as the Democrats out is one reward. As the history of most cities in America will tell you, once the modern Democratic Party gets entrenched, that's not always so easy.

Sterling Dingleberry -- Tuesday, September 19, 2017 -- 09:06:46 PM -- 12 of 13
Jesus loves liberals. However, the rest of us know they are complete assholes.

Let's be clear -- in 2016 and 2017, the criminally-corrupt lying filth who comprised the entire 0bama Administration, top-to-bottom, directly wiretapped Manafort (and all his residences -- including his Trump Tower apartment) in order to conduct illegal surveillance on Trump.

The two key lines from the CNN report Nick linked:

"The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources."
"The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year."

In other words, they found nothing. Then the FBI (under Comey) used the fucking POS "dossier" to obtain a new warrant.

Bottom line -- this spying and lying shit went on with the explicit knowledge of Comey, Lynch, Cankles, Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Rhodes, Biden, 0bama, etc.

All need to be in jail.

Nicholas Kronos -- Friday, September 22, 2017 -- 07:28:02 PM -- 13 of 13
"North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life?"--President Trump (tweeting)

Nothing like losing an election to bring out your long-lost patriotism

Five years ago, Barack Obama: "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years."

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