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The Republican Kennedys
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The Republican Kennedys

Pincher Martin -- Wednesday, June 23, 2010 -- 06:18:51 PM

The Bushes: Two presidencies, two governorships, one vice presidency, one senator's seat. All provided with minimal skill and flexible ideology. The GOP family that just won't go away, no matter how badly they mess things up for both party and country. A thread to discuss all things Bush, including whether Jeb will add to the family's resume.

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Phillip Sheridan -- Friday, January 13, 2012 -- 03:19:08 PM -- 531 of 707
Could someone tell me my password?

(Deleted message originally posted by GregD on Sunday, January 22, 2012 -- 03:26:24 PM.)

GregD -- Sunday, January 22, 2012 -- 03:28:35 PM -- 533 of 707
After the power to choose a man wants the power to erase. --Stephen Dunn

Jeb! won't endorse either Romney or Gingrich

Simultaneously pussified & patrician, and so very above it all. As if he wouldn't have slid right in behind Romney if he'd won SC.

Phillip Sheridan -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 06:52:41 PM -- 534 of 707
Could someone tell me my password?

Mwahahahahahahahahah

Pincher Martin -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 06:58:15 PM -- 535 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

Your link takes me to the front page of TPW.

GregD -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 07:03:55 PM -- 536 of 707
After the power to choose a man wants the power to erase. --Stephen Dunn

I think he means this.

But I may be wrong.

When I saw this photo the opening strains of Elton John's "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" welled up in my mind.

Really, buddy? Jeb! is the answer to attracting Gingrich supporters to an establishment GOP politician?

Pincher Martin -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 07:42:10 PM -- 537 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

Hey, if they can pull off a Jeb candidacy, they should do so. I've given up trying to make Republicans here smarter. There's too much work involved and too little reward. If Sheridan and others want to turn themselves into the perfect butt plugs for the Bushes, who am I to get in their way? Go fulfill your life's ambition, gentlemen.

GregD -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 07:53:43 PM -- 538 of 707
After the power to choose a man wants the power to erase. --Stephen Dunn

Jeb's getting a little jowly there.

Pincher Martin -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 08:00:00 PM -- 539 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

The Bushes, when out of office, prefer to stay out of politics unless they're asked their opinions on the electoral prospects of other Bushes, in which case they trumpet their enthusiastic support. In retirement, George and Laura act as if politics is a dirty business that they would prefer not discussing. But just ask them about Jeb and the presidency, and suddenly they are gushily back into campaign mode.

Early in Obama's presidency, the new president's team looked as if it was going to prosecute those in the military and civilian bureaucracies who had been involved in enhanced interrogation techniques. At the time Phillip Sheridan called on the former president to publicly say that he was responsible for all those decisions and boldly dare the new administration to go after him -- a former president -- before they went after anyone who implemented his orders.

But of course there was never any chance of that happening. George W. Bush will do two things in retirement: burnish his own legacy and boost the family's political fortunes. Helping others to deal with the continued fallout from his administration's decisions? That ain't in the cards.

Phillip Sheridan -- Tuesday, January 24, 2012 -- 08:28:15 PM -- 540 of 707
Could someone tell me my password?

He'll do more than two things.

Pincher Martin -- Friday, February 24, 2012 -- 05:35:38 PM -- 541 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

Jeb Bush: GOP candidates appealing to people's fears

"I used to be a conservative and I watch these debates and I'm wondering, I don't think I've changed, but it's a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people's fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective and that's kind of where we are," said the former Florida Governor. "I think it changes when we get to the general election. I hope."

God this guy is a piece of work.

jenrenton -- Saturday, February 25, 2012 -- 06:45:55 AM -- 542 of 707
Snowflake mother

Jeb Bush appeals to my fears, for sure. He speaks right to them!

Pincher Martin -- Saturday, February 25, 2012 -- 07:48:47 AM -- 543 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

I was pleasantly surprised to see that this headline over at Hot Air elicited almost universal revulsion among the many commentators.

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, March 01, 2012 -- 07:06:35 PM -- 544 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

Despite Mitt Romney wins, both sides keep eying Jeb Bush

And Democrats continue to cast a wary eye on a guy they see as more dangerous — and capable of connecting with middle-class and Latino voters — than Romney.
The Bush murmurs persist, even as a resilient Romney marches toward Super Tuesday with a commanding lead in cash, delegates and momentum over a sagging Rick Santorum.
“I have the perfect candidate — Jeb Bush. But he’s not running,” former George W. Bush chief of staff Andy Card told Charlie Rose on CBS on Wednesday, echoing the sentiments of many in his party.
“What Democrat would not worry about a popular leader from a critical state who sounds pretty moderate and can rescue the GOP from its anti-Latino death grip?” asked former Bill Clinton press secretary Mike McCurry, who said he’s yet to find a Democratic elder who thinks the GOP is truly “unhinged” enough to consider ditching Romney for Bush....
“I think that changes when we get to the general election — I hope,” added Bush, who has personally urged Romney to moderate his rhetoric on illegal immigration for fear of completely alienating Hispanic voters in states like Florida, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona.
That got the attention of conservatives including Ann Coulter, who slammed him of prepping for a campaign, and Obama campaign officials who found his timing curious.

When I read articles like this, I'm convinced that at least two-thirds of people in politics are mouth-breathing idiots.

jenrenton -- Thursday, March 01, 2012 -- 08:57:59 PM -- 545 of 707
Snowflake mother

If the GOP puts up Jeb, I hope they get exactly what they deserve. It'll be the only candidate that allows Obama to run exactly the same anti-Bush campaign that he won so convincingly last time.

GregD -- Thursday, March 01, 2012 -- 11:14:38 PM -- 546 of 707
After the power to choose a man wants the power to erase. --Stephen Dunn

Andy Card is hilarious. C'mon, seriously?

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, March 01, 2012 -- 11:43:47 PM -- 547 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

Like the Kennedys, the Bush family has a group of functionaries and high-level gofers who serve the family's political ambitions. Some of these people have talent and some don't. Card is one who does. But they all share the quality of a certain shamelessness and lack of self-respect when promoting the Bushes that the family has always sought in its help.

From 1989 to 1992 Card served as Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for George H.W. Bush, and this posting began a love affair he's had with the Bush family that has not stopped to this day.

He then became Transportation Secretary under George H.W. Bush in 1992.

After Bush lost in 1992 to Clinton, Card went back to Massachusetts, but then came back to serve Dubya in 2000 -- first to run the Republican National Convention in 2000 and then to become his Chief of Staff for six years.

He then was named acting Dean of the Bush School at Texas A&M in 2011, presumably because the school is his Graceland. So it's quite natural he'd be schlepping for Jeb in his own ham-handed way.

Card was the man who whispered to Bush that the country was under attack on 9/11.

He has one of the deadest expressions I've ever seen on a man.

Lizzie T. -- Friday, March 02, 2012 -- 01:36:07 AM -- 548 of 707
Oh, for crying out loud.

Card or Bush?

Pincher Martin -- Friday, March 02, 2012 -- 04:18:34 AM -- 549 of 707
"There is science, logic, reason; there is thought verified by experience. And then there is California.” -- Edward Abbey

Ha! I was thinking Card.

GregD -- Friday, March 02, 2012 -- 01:26:16 PM -- 550 of 707
After the power to choose a man wants the power to erase. --Stephen Dunn

Bush's immediate stunned paralysis after being notified is all you need to know about that entire presidency. It's the whole thing writ small. The face of a guy who's realizing this isn't going to be the fun gig he thought it'd be.

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