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The Perfect World >> Health & Fitness >> Alzheimers Disease

Alzheimers Disease

aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 07:58:52 AM

Charlton Heston has just announced he has this disease, Ronald Reagan is in much worse condition.

Worst of all my beautiful Mama (grandma) has just been moved into a respite home as the diseasehas gradually taken over. She no longer remembersany of us and it is heart breaking.

Thoughts, comments, links, discussion all welcome.

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aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:11:14 AM -- 1 of 118

I was reading about Charlton Heston on the weekend and then about Ronald Reagan.

As posted above my grandma is mentally fading away faster than she is physically. It is so hard to have her not know us, but she is 89.

aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:17:54 AM -- 2 of 118

More about Heston here..

(I learned how to link this morning, I think I have created a monster)

CalGal -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:45:25 AM -- 3 of 118
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

My grandfather died of Alzheimers. He was around 80 when he died, but the symptoms probably started much earlier. He up and moved from Punxsy, PA (where he'd lived all his life) to Dade City, FL for no real reason we could figure. His version of it was very violent.

That's sad about Heston--I quite like him as an actor; he's more talented in his way than he's given credit for.

Did you read that Newsweek article about the nun study and Alzheimers?

aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:47:44 AM -- 4 of 118

Mama is just one of those Grandma's in story books. You know the ones who always have lollies and cakes for the kids, who always protect you when you are in trouble with your parents, always will loan you money, even against your parents wishes.

I think the worst thing is that her whole face would light up when she saw any of us (7 grandkids) and it doesn't happen now.

aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:53:00 AM -- 5 of 118

x-post.

Cal, sorry about your Grandfather, how long ago did he pass ?

I have not seen the Newsweek article, can you link it for me ?

Mama is 89, so she has had a really good innings, I can't help feeling that I would like her have people she loves around her when she goes, and with the Alzheimers, all she will have is strangers (to her)

CalGal -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:55:22 AM -- 6 of 118
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Oh, it was 14 years ago--he died shortly before Spawn was born.

Three of my four grandparents made it to 80, two of them made it over 85.

I don't think Newsweek keeps archives, but let me see if I can find anything. As I recall, you could predict which nuns got Alzheimers.

Gen Yakka -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 03:56:58 AM -- 7 of 118
Oh bother said the Borg, we've assimilated Pooh.

Predict???? I'd be really interested in the article as well.

CalGal -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 04:06:12 AM -- 8 of 118
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Nun study

CalGal -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 04:08:35 AM -- 9 of 118
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Ah, here's the original article, it was in Time, not Newsweek.

aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 04:19:10 AM -- 10 of 118

Interesting article.

Mama never really recovered from my Grandfather's death, although he died before I was born, 33 years ago. She got on with life, but not really living hers. More like she lived through us and her own 2 kids.

winger -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 12:16:02 PM -- 11 of 118
If I wanted to share your point of view I'd sit on your lap.

I noted that there are no rules on the Rules page for this thread. Hate to be a nanny, but shouldn't there be an indication of what you will find objectionable as far as posting goes in this thread aussie?

Ase -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 02:52:52 PM -- 12 of 118
"Cold cold empty void", "Grandma's food for worms now". Atheist hymns, by Jamie R.

The last couple of times that I have gone back, my parents have told me about old friends and acquaintances of theirs who have, or had alzheimers, and it is so sad, and hits me in a way that just reading about it doesn't.

The father of this guy who I had a big crush on when I was 13 died from it, and it seems so inconceivable that this handsome and smart man would have gone that way. The old headmaster of my siblings school now has it. My aunt and uncle went to visit, and he is completely gone. Alive, but there is nothing there. This guy looked like jimminy cricket, and used to host the conserts. He once read Peter and the Wolf.

It just kind of eats at me. I'm usually so isolated from this, since I have moved away from home - I just don't see the passage of time in people the same way, so it is a bit shocking to get confronted with it when I visit at home.

J-Ro -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 06:18:51 PM -- 13 of 118
It will all be OK in the end. If it isn't OK, it isn't the end.

Both my paternal grandparents died of Alzheimer's. I greatly fear inheriting it. I constantly indulge in magical thinking, particularly when any new information about it comes available: I won't get it because I take ibuprofen in big doses all the time; I won't get it because I write complexly (viz. the nun study); I won't get it because see! they're coming up with new stuff all the time. I was also planning not to get it by taking HRT, but I guess that's Right Out now.

Actually, if there were any real evidence that HRT was helpful, I'd probably take it anyway. I would rather have cancer than Alzheimer's, if I had to choose.

CalGal -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 07:44:23 PM -- 14 of 118
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Folic acid is a good idea.

Denise H. -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 08:00:37 PM -- 15 of 118
Texans 21 Jags 19

It stinks. My favorite grandmother had it. The worst part is that their body is there, but they aren't. It's also one of those situations where you have to laugh or you'll cry . I can't tell you the times my grandmother would say stuff and my mom and I would look at each other and try not to laugh. I still remember: in the middle of a family party at my parents, Nana decides to go in the bathroom and brush her teeth with my toothbrush.

J-Ro -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 08:29:04 PM -- 16 of 118
It will all be OK in the end. If it isn't OK, it isn't the end.

gulping handfuls of prenatal vitamins

aussiegirl -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 09:28:14 PM -- 17 of 118

Just a note: I am very new to hosting threads and am learning as I go. Anything that needs looking after please let me know, such as the post from Winger.

I will have a think about the rules and get it sorted today.

CalGal -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 09:35:24 PM -- 18 of 118
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Aussie--for example, would you be more interested in talking about the cause and prevention for Alzheimer's, or to (ack) share experiences for caring for relatives. That's the kind of hosting decisions you can make--along with be polite, don't be polite, etc.

(Deleted message originally posted by Christiane on Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 11:40:18 PM.)

J-Ro -- Monday, August 12, 2002 -- 11:52:44 PM -- 20 of 118
It will all be OK in the end. If it isn't OK, it isn't the end.

My grandmother was also a perfect lady, a trait that outlasted both her memory and her intellect. She was, at the same time, a perfect Democrat.

When my dad first realized that she had it, he took her to the neuro for some testing. One of the questions was "Who is the president of the U.S.?" She thought and thought, but she couldn't give the answer.

When they were leaving, she said, "Bobby, I flunked the test." My dad assured her that it was not being graded. She asked, "Is the president Ronald Reagan?" My dad said yes. She said, "I couldn't think of his name. All I could think of was 'it's that son-of-a-bitch,' so I thought I'd better not say anything at all."

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