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The Perfect World >> A Sense of Place >> Song of the South

Song of the South

yoyoma -- Wednesday, July 07, 2004 -- 08:15:03 PM

Come on down, y'all.

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JennyD -- Wednesday, July 21, 2004 -- 11:35:19 PM -- 538 of 1156

Maybe the Sweet Tea Line extends into western Va., then, Dew. My highly scientific determination is that in restaurants below the line, you're served sweet tea unless you specify unsweetened. In restaurants around here, they usually have only unsweetened, or else they ask which you want.

rufus christ -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 07:54:58 AM -- 539 of 1156
Life is short, people are a more precious commodity than y'all seem to realize & karma can be a funny thing. I hope you figure that out some day in a way that doesn't bite you in the ass. The roads diverge here. Peace and happiness.

Sweet tea my big, hispanic butt. Those restaurants are serving syrup over ice.

yoyoma -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 06:19:04 PM -- 540 of 1156
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Mmmmmmmmmm. Down here one has to specify, but that's due to the high tourist content. Myrtle Beach, for those playing at home.

I'm moving further inland on August 15 and I cannot wait. I always thought the beach would be great, but the tourists I can do without.

terrilynn -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 06:34:51 PM -- 541 of 1156
The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea. (Isak Dinesen)

Where are y'all going, yoyo?

I am not a huge fan of Myrtle Beach (I prefer my beaches more beach, less amusement), but I recently saw it through my kid's eyes, and he thinks it's fabulous.

yoyoma -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 06:41:15 PM -- 542 of 1156
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Just slightly to the northwest, to Conway. It's far enough to not be super touristy, but close enough that we can still get to the beaches and restaurants. I just got a job in Marion and DH works in Conway, so it's better for everyone.

Also, we live in an apartment right now. The rental company has decided to rent out the vacant ones as weekly units. So we get a lot of people around who don't care if they trash the place because they won't be there next week. It's sooooo great to go to the pool and see drunk college students getting topless while I'm trying to teach Cam how to swim.

Have I mentioned I can't wait to move?

terrilynn -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 07:48:26 PM -- 543 of 1156
The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea. (Isak Dinesen)

Congrats on your job. I know where Conway is and I imagine that will be much better for family life.

Sometime when y'all are in a road trip mood, come on up to Wilmington!

Wampus Cat -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 10:12:59 PM -- 544 of 1156
Smiting is not a lateral business.

Conway is a sweet little town. My cousin was a minister there for about 20 years.

And Myrtle Beach really does suck. It's the armpit of the state. The only advantage of it is that most of the tackiness in the entire state is concentrated in this one area.

So, which grocery chain makes decent iced tea? I'm having a party and buying tea will save me some labor. (I just spent an hour heading ten pounds of shrimp and collecting umpteen mosquito bites while I did it.)

yoyoma -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 10:17:03 PM -- 545 of 1156
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Ye olde Fil-A sells it by the gallon. DH has his press luncheons catered by them. Before you think him tactless, it's a reciprocal relationship free food = advertising. Anyway, their tea travels well, sez me.

Dew -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 10:19:06 PM -- 546 of 1156
I'm blind to you, haters. Can't touch me, war-instigators.

As their lemonade does. Hangover-slurp-down heavenly hydrating goodness it is.

Marya -- Thursday, July 22, 2004 -- 11:09:38 PM -- 547 of 1156
You are the Proust of TPW, and we all prefer J.K. Rowling. -j. ross

One of my old grad school housemates teaches at Coastal Carolina U in Conway, yoyoma. Great guy and a total crazy eccentric.

catling -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 12:59:01 AM -- 548 of 1156
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McAlister's Deli sells good sweet and unsweet tea by the gallon.

eleanor rigby -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 01:01:55 AM -- 549 of 1156
Dear Vegetables, Now I know why braindead people are named after you and not rocks. At least rocks don't taste like DESPAIR.

I'm heading to Durham on Wednesday! I can't wait... I can drink sweet tea and eat grits and buy White Lily. And it'll be HOT.

Wampus Cat -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 07:37:17 AM -- 550 of 1156
Smiting is not a lateral business.

You ain't kidding about hot.

I will check out Chik-Fil-A tea, thanks.

rufus christ -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 07:43:44 AM -- 551 of 1156
Life is short, people are a more precious commodity than y'all seem to realize & karma can be a funny thing. I hope you figure that out some day in a way that doesn't bite you in the ass. The roads diverge here. Peace and happiness.

Wampus, I second the Chik-Fil-A tea rec and will attest to their lemonade being very good. I generally don't like lemonade unless I make it myself from fresh lemons, but theirs is really good.

For some reason, Subway has really good cold tea. It has a slightly floral note to it, like a Russian Kusmi tea. Then again, maybe they just need to clean out their pots...

Ellie Mayhem -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 10:55:56 AM -- 552 of 1156

wait, you're going to buy sweet tea? Are you nutsy? How hard is it to plop a few family sized luzianne tea bags into a jug of water and stir in some simple syrup?

JennyD -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 12:05:52 PM -- 553 of 1156

Simple syrup, schmimple syrup. Just dump the sugar into the pitcher, pour in the boiling water and plunk in the tea bags. (I use decaf tea, because it doesn't get bitter when I forget and steep it too long.) About 1/2 cup of sugar to a gallon is plenty sweet for me -- I don't like really really sweet iced tea.

Yoyo, we have family friends in Conway. I remember going to see them there a number of years ago, when they'd had a new baby. The mom was my first-grade teacher.

yoyoma -- Friday, July 23, 2004 -- 02:18:34 PM -- 554 of 1156
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Marya- e-mail incoming. DH works at CCU.

Wampus Cat -- Saturday, July 24, 2004 -- 11:05:06 PM -- 555 of 1156
Smiting is not a lateral business.

I know it's easy to make tea, but I had 47 people invited and too much other stuff to do.

And don't you tell my grandma I bought tea, either.

CalGal -- Sunday, July 25, 2004 -- 12:05:57 PM -- 556 of 1156
I'd much rather argue than make money.

Marya -- Sunday, July 25, 2004 -- 11:29:46 PM -- 557 of 1156
You are the Proust of TPW, and we all prefer J.K. Rowling. -j. ross

Give my regards to the K&W Cafeteria. How I miss it. I used to eat pan-fried chicken livers, collards, and mashed potatoes there about once a month.

And Bullock's Barbecue.

Frank Black -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 12:44:30 PM -- 558 of 1156
Come over to the dark side. . . .we have cookies.

Collards. . . . .I need to make those again. Used to eat 'em all the time. Anyone have a recipe besides just boiling and salting them?

melisub -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 12:49:59 PM -- 559 of 1156

We cut the leaves into thin strips and sautee them with plenty of olive oil and garlic. Season with a bit of vinegar or lemon juice, and some crushed red pepper. Not all how my grandma made them, but very delicious.

Promqueen -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 12:52:36 PM -- 560 of 1156

Oh, honey, you don't just boil them. You have to simmer them slowly with salt pork or bacon grease, maybe a little minced onion or jalapeno as well.

Frank Black -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 12:54:59 PM -- 561 of 1156
Come over to the dark side. . . .we have cookies.

Hmmmm, I like the olive oil and garlic business. I'm guessing that doesn't work very well with the frozen cubes o' collards though.

Crispy Girl -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 01:05:22 PM -- 562 of 1156

We start our collards by simmering smoked neck bones and whole peeled onions into a yummy broth. When it tastes good, add the washed, washed, washed some more then chopped collards. Simmer until they're done. Mmmm...

melisub -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 01:06:55 PM -- 563 of 1156

Maybe the frozen blocks o'collard would work if you thawed and drained them, then sauteed them?

Frank Black -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 01:11:10 PM -- 564 of 1156
Come over to the dark side. . . .we have cookies.

There's an idea. That would take some degree of planning however. More than, "Say, it's 4:45, whatever shall I eat tonight?"

melisub -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 01:14:32 PM -- 565 of 1156

You could use a microwave, if you have one.

I seem to be overinvested in you eating your collards!

Crispy Girl -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 01:29:52 PM -- 566 of 1156

Frank--thaw the frozen collards in cool water before you saute them. It's not my preferred way to eat collards, but so long as you eat 'em.

rufus christ -- Wednesday, July 28, 2004 -- 10:50:00 PM -- 567 of 1156
Life is short, people are a more precious commodity than y'all seem to realize & karma can be a funny thing. I hope you figure that out some day in a way that doesn't bite you in the ass. The roads diverge here. Peace and happiness.

I second Melisub's method. They're best served with a splash of good vinegar.

Frank Black -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 01:56:55 PM -- 568 of 1156
Come over to the dark side. . . .we have cookies.

I believe I shall attempt something like that this weekend.

rrose selavy -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 02:18:23 PM -- 569 of 1156
clams on the half shell and roller skates, roller skates

Me too.

LanaBonna -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 03:13:53 PM -- 570 of 1156

Marya--Bullocks! I LOVE Bullocks. MMMmmm. Seconded only by Smithfields BBQ.

Judi Kay -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 03:54:33 PM -- 571 of 1156

I haven't had good barbecue in so, so long. I'm thinking of having some fed-exed to me. It's not quite the same as eating it at a real barbecue joint, but I'm skeptical of my own abilities to produce good barbecue.

Promqueen -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 05:08:24 PM -- 572 of 1156

Where do you live, Judi?

Judi Kay -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 07:16:57 PM -- 573 of 1156

In California. Not exactly barbecue country. Mom and Dad, however, live in the South, and they eat barbecue at least once a week. Just yesterday, Mom was talking about how they'd had dinner at the bbq place owned by a family in their church and how good the ribs were. Mr. Kay is a ribs fanatic, and I try to shield his ears from such conversations because we've never found decent ribs away from the South and he gets cranky when reminded of it.

Clio -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 07:25:04 PM -- 574 of 1156
"New Orleans, she smells like summer rain, sweet olive and coffee." -Chris Rose

Try doing them yourself! My husband just started doing his own ribs, and even the first attempt was very good - and a welcome respite from Texas "all beef, all the time" barbecue.

I like a good barbecued brisket as much as the next person, but to me, nothing says REAL barbecue like pig.

Judi Kay -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 07:41:04 PM -- 575 of 1156

Amen.

Tad Early -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 07:50:29 PM -- 576 of 1156
Sarsaparilla and fresh horses for all my men!

If you have a Weber kettle grill you can make pretty good barbecued ribs by yourself. The only other equipment you need is a rack to hold the ribs with and a pie pan to catch the grease drippings (and so you can use indirect heat rather than putting the ribs over the fire).

Steve Raichlen has the technique in several of his books, but basically, you put a pie tin in the middle of the coal grill and build the fire around it, then put your ribs in the rack, cover the grill, and basically hot smoke the ribs for a hour or two. You need to add coals every so often to keep the temp up, and also wood chips to add smoke help. Plus you need a beer so you have something to drink while you wait.

yoyoma -- Friday, July 30, 2004 -- 07:52:16 PM -- 577 of 1156
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So can we debate the glories of wet vs. dry barbecue? Because down here the dry rub is the thing, and I just don't get it. I'm partial to some sauce.

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