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On Blogging

CalGal -- Sunday, January 11, 2004 -- 08:10:55 PM

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CalGal -- Sunday, January 11, 2004 -- 08:11:31 PM -- 1 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

My So-Called Blog

What gets me is if all these teens are online, why the hell isn't someone monetizing it?

Annie G -- Sunday, January 11, 2004 -- 09:00:27 PM -- 2 of 1131
take deep breaths

Aren't those companies making money? What are they called, livejournal, deadjournal, xanaga.

CalGal -- Monday, January 12, 2004 -- 01:36:12 AM -- 3 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

If they are, how?

Jenni S. -- Monday, January 12, 2004 -- 02:20:53 AM -- 4 of 1131
One raises the eyebrow

My girls both have blogs on livejournal. There at least, the basic minimal blog is free, but it is apparently so limited in functionality that most people they know ante up for the added services. Certainly livejournal's pricing seems to be aimed right at the teen market, as it costs something like $5 for a 2 months paid account, and a couple of dollars a month for extra icons and so on.

IsaAnne -- Monday, January 12, 2004 -- 04:51:53 AM -- 5 of 1131

Raise your hand if you have a blog.

--raise--

I started one because I was inspired by a couple of people I know who have them, one who is a great writer, and one who is a great collector of links and takes cool photos. Blogs are what the first homepages should have been - and are viral so I go ahead and assume that it will eventually cost $$ for those who are not webcentric.

The software that is out there, if you are not using Blogger or some free service like that (Blogger has been bought by Google, they probably have something in mind) is often free - but, you have to know a bit about the software to run it, or get someone learned in the art of web. Many ask that you display their logo on your blog, and tries to enforce it.

I like to click the main Blogger page a few times, since they have a feature on their main page - a list of recently updated blogs. Every time you refresh the page (at a 'few seconds' interval)it updates. So many people editing their silly blogs. Crazy.

terrilynn -- Monday, January 12, 2004 -- 03:59:08 PM -- 6 of 1131
The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea. (Isak Dinesen)

I had a freebie LJ one, but it's so ugly and I just wasn't all that crazy about the interface, so I ponied up for one on another service. I have the minimal package and I think it's about $10/month (on which I get a discount for being an early subscriber). If you pay for a year at a time, you get a couple months free.

IsaAnne -- Tuesday, January 13, 2004 -- 03:43:39 AM -- 7 of 1131

BTW: I did not realize there were bunches of other threads on blogging. I don't care if my post gets moved or not - just wanted to say I will use this thread for articles going forward.

DJ Dre -- Tuesday, January 13, 2004 -- 06:38:16 PM -- 8 of 1131
We have met the enemy and he is us.

What gets me is if all these teens are online, why the hell isn't someone monetizing it?

Cal, if you ever answer that question, let me know.

However, I bet it's the same reason why when an online community (Salon, the Fool) gates itself by charging a fee, that even heavy users who could afford it, choose not to pay... because they can get it for free.

I must admit, the blogging fuss is a bit odd to me. I don't see that much difference between a message board or club or a web page... they're just different versions of self-publishing or writing on a communal bathroom wall.

The grass roots and niche nature of the net makes it hard to monitize a site in the critical mass, old school business model. These individual blogs have no mass appeal, and I doubt there's much collective appeal. So the only thing left is macro transactions. And that may or may not pay the bills.

I'm probably the only person who morns the loss of AOL's old per hour fee in favour of the flat rate price/access model. Back in the day, when you were charged $2.95 an hour, a teeny tiny little group still had a revenue stream that made them an asset (on AOL) a commodity worth the trouble.

I'd also argue that the per hour access model forced brevity and greatly increased the signal to noise ratio.

glendajean -- Tuesday, January 13, 2004 -- 06:39:12 PM -- 9 of 1131

A lot of people are just discovering blogs, or didn't realize that that was what they've been reading over the last couple of years.

Rebecca Blood, who wrote a handbook on blogging, has this informative essay on the history and development of blogs.

She says that they started out as short commentaries where the writer linked his or her commentary with the original source (newspaper article, web site, e.g.), but that as the technology became more available, another form developed, the journal.

The original form became a way to filter the web for readers ("hey, did you see this" or "what xyz wrote is wrong because of..."). The latter form became more of a journal, collection of essays, or a notebook.

MsIt -- Tuesday, January 13, 2004 -- 06:59:11 PM -- 10 of 1131

I must admit, the blogging fuss is a bit odd to me. I don't see that much difference between a message board or club or a web page... they're just different versions of self-publishing or writing on a communal bathroom wall.

Ditto. I add navel gazing as well.

CalGal -- Tuesday, January 13, 2004 -- 07:12:37 PM -- 11 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

They're much easier to manage than forums, which is why they caught on more than forums. They're also considerably cheaper.

But the best blogs aren't diaries, but specialized sites and nothing navel-gazing about them.

Lorelei -- Tuesday, January 13, 2004 -- 07:19:21 PM -- 12 of 1131
Trust the force and never keep receipts. -Kate D.

I also don't understand the huge fuss over blogging - people have been doing essentially the same thing for as long as the Web has been around. It's just that blogging software makes it easier; you don't need to know anything about HTML or managing a website, so the barrier to entry is lower.

lime -- Wednesday, May 19, 2004 -- 07:31:36 PM -- 13 of 1131
you can fight it, or you can rock out to it

There's a big fuss over Movable Type's new release. (Tons of trackbacks on this.)

They're charging now, with tiered payments for the type of usage, and not everyone's happy about it.

Scriptygoddess on the change, and another blogger.

Personally, I don't really care, as I was never planning on upgrading and have my own plans for dealing with comments and comment spam, which was supposed to be the big change with the new version of MT. A lot of people seem to be planning to switch to wordpress, which doesn't really appeal to me, as that's in php and I'm trying to migrate all my stuff to perl-based backends.

CalGal -- Wednesday, May 19, 2004 -- 10:38:38 PM -- 14 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Ha. Lime, this is an opportunity for you. A lot of the bitching comes from people who are really running forums, not blogs.

CalGal -- Wednesday, May 19, 2004 -- 10:44:30 PM -- 15 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Wow, reading it closer, a lot of people really are using it as a way for a bunch of buddies to post on one site.

People really will do anything to avoid running forums.

cj griffin -- Thursday, May 20, 2004 -- 10:58:11 PM -- 16 of 1131
There's a fine, fine line between a fairy tale and a lie.

Because they don't know the glory of lime's forum software!

lime -- Friday, May 21, 2004 -- 11:06:51 PM -- 17 of 1131
you can fight it, or you can rock out to it

Wow, this guy really wants forum software, not blogging, with closed registration. He wants to write a novel, and have a select group of readers respond to his novel as he writes it, and he wants to use MT for it, and I guess add new authors for everyone who reads it? It would make tons more sense to run that project as a forum, not a blog.

CalGal -- Friday, May 21, 2004 -- 11:26:41 PM -- 18 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

What did I tell you? You want me to tell HIM?

CalGal -- Friday, May 21, 2004 -- 11:27:12 PM -- 19 of 1131
I remember a time, back in the late 90s, when I thought nonsense like this mattered somewhat more than I do now. Now I see well-educated people yammering about the birth control choices of their daughters, or gay marriage, and I think they are morons.

Okay, but the stable earth is making me nauseous.

lime -- Friday, May 21, 2004 -- 11:29:47 PM -- 20 of 1131
you can fight it, or you can rock out to it

I know. I had to highlight the page to read it. I couldn't take it moving around like that.

I was considering telling him, but I haven't yet.

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