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Politics for Dilettantes

Kawaii -- Wednesday, October 08, 2003 -- 10:08:43 PM

Apathetic? Uninformed? Don't even vote? Have your bread and want your circus?

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MsIt -- Sunday, October 05, 2014 -- 07:55:09 PM -- 5384 of 5403

What's interesting about this whole exchange (and even before it) is Maher's position.

Based on his positions on other liberal issues, I'm very surprised at his hard line stance on Islamists and what we should be doing.

Nicholas Kronos -- Sunday, October 05, 2014 -- 09:48:45 PM -- 5385 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

Overall Maher is loathsome, but I give him props for being so visible and vocal on this because there is some genuine risk involved.

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 05:04:33 PM -- 5386 of 5403
"Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible." -- George Orwell

Sam Harris gives some very interesting background to his televised clash with Ben Affleck on Bill Maher's show

Harris believes Affleck had been prepped by Greenwald (or someone with similar views) and was gunning for him from the beginning.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:14:47 PM -- 5387 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

It wouldn't have required any prep work for Affleck to do what he did. In a way, it was the right strategy, although Affleck wound up "being widely reviled as an imbecile."

He wasn't going to beat Harris on the facts, but he could hope that by being so aggressive he could force Maher or Harris into a soundbite that would skewer them with liberals.

For that matter, much of the left think that is what happened.

Maher is the far more vulnerable target.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:18:16 PM -- 5388 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

One argument that I find pretty funny goes something like this:

RA: Your views of Islam are racist.

SH: No. I'm talking about an ideology--an ideology that practices female circumcision.

RA: That's not an Islam problem; it's an African problem.

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:27:52 PM -- 5389 of 5403
"Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible." -- George Orwell

It wouldn't have required any prep work for Affleck to do what he did.

If you read Harris's explanation, you know that Affleck was gunning for him from the beginning, even though Harris claims it was later clear to him that Affleck didn't know his work.

Harris writes:

What many viewers probably don’t realize is that the mid-show interview is supposed be a protected five-to-seven-minute conversation between Maher and the new guest—and all the panelists know this. To ignore this structure and encroach on this space is a little rude; to jump in with criticism, as Affleck did, is pretty hostile. He tried to land his first blow a mere 90 seconds after I took my seat, before the topic of Islam even came up.

Before the topic of Islam even came up.

I haven't watched the full show. I can't say if Harris is accurately describing Affleck's hostility. But Harris's tone throughout the piece seems moderate, fair and objective - at least until he gets to Reza Aslan. And since I'm unfamiliar with Aslan's work, it's possible Harris is still being objective and fair, and that Aslan is deserving of such severe criticism.

In any case, if Affleck didn't know Harris's work, he would need ideological prepping before going on the show to do what he did. He would need to be told that Harris is a bad, racist man, and that Affleck should be wary of anything he said. That seems to be Harris' allegation, and he seems to have some idea of who's behind it.

Is he correct? I have no idea. But it's interesting background.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:39:55 PM -- 5390 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

I read the explanation. The RA in my dialogue snippet above is Reza Aslan, and it's Harris he's rebutting (SH).

One reason I don't agree that Affleck was prepped--or at least not effectively--is he didn't make those kinds of arguments. That is, the female circumcision rate is low in many non-African Muslim countries and high in some African countries that are nominally not Islamic.

(I haven't looked at this thoroughly, but I believe that in the African countries that have low female-circumcision rates, the rate is still higher among Muslims.)

Sterling Dingleberry -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:40:42 PM -- 5391 of 5403
Worshiping "celebrities" and failed politicians is an index of how pathetic this country has become.

Typically pretentious liberal assholes -- every fucking one of them.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:41:56 PM -- 5392 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

Typically pretentious liberal assholes -- every fucking one of them.

On Twitter: "Uh-oh. Bill Maher and Ben Affleck disagree....Who can I believe?"

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, October 09, 2014 -- 06:42:45 PM -- 5393 of 5403
"Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible." -- George Orwell

One reason I don't agree that Affleck was prepped--or at least not effectively--is he didn't make those kinds of arguments.

Affleck didn't really have a serious argument, so the prepping obviously would've been ideological and attitudinal, not the kind of prepping that intellectually prepared him for debate.

Pincher Martin -- Friday, October 10, 2014 -- 08:07:19 PM -- 5394 of 5403
"Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible." -- George Orwell

Lena Dunham, Hypocrite

So many people are liberals until they have to pick up the check, and then suddenly they're doing something even many conservatives would be uncomfortable with.

Sterling Dingleberry -- Friday, October 10, 2014 -- 09:54:49 PM -- 5395 of 5403
Worshiping "celebrities" and failed politicians is an index of how pathetic this country has become.

These scumbag libs are notoriously cheap bastards when it comes to their own money, but they have no issues with wasting the money and time of others.

The mattress-backed Dunham is not only a hypocrite, she is a grossly-obese fat tramp.

As such, I wouldn't even fuck her with Campo's dick.

She makes my stomach heave in gut-churning revulsion.

Nicholas Kronos -- Friday, October 10, 2014 -- 10:14:05 PM -- 5396 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

She already made me think of a female Michael Moore, so employment hypocrisy is just something else they have in common.

Pincher Martin -- Wednesday, October 15, 2014 -- 11:52:18 PM -- 5397 of 5403
"Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible." -- George Orwell

Meg McCain: My Dad Hates Rand Paul

Meghan McCain appeared on Howard Stern’s SiriusXM radio show to promote her “TakePart Live” talk show on Pivot TV. When Stern asked the 29-year-old what her father thinks of the Tea Party favorite, she quickly replied, “They hate each other.”
She repeated the sentiment before wondering aloud if it had previously been publicly disclosed.
“In a fistfight, I’m pretty sure your dad can kick [Paul’s] ass,” Stern quipped to McCain.
“Yeah,” the Vietnam War veteran’s daughter said, “My father’s 76 years old and he can still throw down.” McCain, born in 1936, is actually 78 years old.
Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, October 16, 2014 -- 01:30:01 AM -- 5398 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

Despite the caption attached to this photo, it is not Meghan McCain.

While NSFW, it is more interesting than anything that bovine bloviator has ever had to say.

Sterling Dingleberry -- Friday, October 17, 2014 -- 12:28:43 AM -- 5399 of 5403
Worshiping "celebrities" and failed politicians is an index of how pathetic this country has become.

“My father’s 76 years old and he can still throw down.”

Sadly, John McCain is a physical cripple who is barely able to raise his arms to the level of his shoulders. It has been said he is unable to comb his hair, type on a keyboard, or even tie his shoes.

Doubtful he can throw much of a punch or throw somebody to the ground.

Henry Jones -- Friday, October 17, 2014 -- 04:39:30 PM -- 5400 of 5403
Cold ass honky

I don't see any caption on that photo.

Let me try looking again. . . . .

Nicholas Kronos -- Friday, October 17, 2014 -- 04:46:09 PM -- 5401 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

The site captioned it Meghan McCain, Henry, but I linked straight to the photo.

So there's really no need to keep looking. Really. No. Need.

Nicholas Kronos -- Wednesday, October 22, 2014 -- 03:01:12 PM -- 5402 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

Washington Post goes full dilettante in Florida debate coverage.

It's kind of odd, though, that they'd be making fun of Scott's appearance, considering their owner:

Nicholas Kronos -- Wednesday, October 29, 2014 -- 05:17:32 PM -- 5403 of 5403
"This is what a successful presidency looks like." -- Paul Krugmann

Admits it? Like hell: he's bragging!

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