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Politics for Dilettantes
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Politics for Dilettantes

Kawaii -- Wednesday, October 08, 2003 -- 10:08:43 PM

Apathetic? Uninformed? Don't even vote? Have your bread and want your circus?

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Nicholas Kronos -- Tuesday, May 17, 2016 -- 02:43:43 PM -- 5682 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

Mick Jagger, as of three months ago she was having a big thing. [indiscernible] What she — Just doesn’t want to be in the limelight. What she was having a very big thing with Mick Jagger. And then what happened, she was going with Eric Clapton, and Eric Clapton introduced her to Mick Jagger, and then Mick Jagger started calling her, and she ended up going with Mick Jagger. And then she dropped Mick Jagger for Donald, and that’s where it is right now. And again, he’s not making any commitments to Carla either just so you understand.

All of these guys are geezers now, but I'm sure it was a big brag for a then-middle-aged Trump to be able to claim he'd stolen a hot 24-year-old model away from the approximately 50-year-old rock star.

Pincher Martin -- Tuesday, May 17, 2016 -- 03:40:06 PM -- 5683 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

I feel similarly about Rupert Murdoch and Jerry Hall.

I bet Rupert saw Jerry (and Mick) numerous times during his years in London and New York, while thinking to himself, "What a dish."

*****

*****

Decades later, Rupert finally gets his chance.

Nicholas Kronos -- Tuesday, May 17, 2016 -- 03:53:39 PM -- 5684 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

Hall has held up pretty well, and I have the impression she's a nice woman (don't know much about her, honestly, but her smile seems genuine, and she has that Southern lady voice).

Compared to Bruni, though, she was the daughter of a librarian and a truck driver. So, if ambitious, she of necessity had to trade on her looks more than Bruni did.

Still...

Rupert Murdoch? Yech.

Pincher Martin -- Tuesday, May 17, 2016 -- 04:06:12 PM -- 5685 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

Just goes to show that if you want to hook up with a super model, all you need to do is wait...

Nicholas Kronos -- Friday, May 20, 2016 -- 12:33:18 AM -- 5686 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

Whoa:

Nicholas Kronos -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 05:31:26 AM -- 5687 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

My new theory of presidential politics is the more boring candidate loses, at least going back to Eisenhower - Stevenson. I don't remember that campaign, naturally, but I would assume that Eisenhower--despite being a war hero--was more boring than Stevenson (who was reputed to be witty).

1968 is hard to say, but even if we say Nixon was more boring than Humphrey, that still means boring is 1 for the last 14.

HRC pants suits and campaign themes? Boring!

Pincher Martin -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 05:35:42 AM -- 5688 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

I don't know. Goldwater and McGovern seem more exciting candidates than LBJ and Nixon. Some might say that was their problem.

The dullness of Bush/Gore in 2000 is hard to calculate, because they were both pretty dull, but then perhaps that's why the election was so close and turnout so low.

Carter/Ford in 1976? Another close election between two pretty dull men.

Nicholas Kronos -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 05:43:40 AM -- 5689 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

Goldwater and McGovern were more exciting in that their views were out of the mainstream, but they were less interesting individuals than their opponents.

Your retrospective hatred of Bush makes you reluctant to give him any credit, but he was definitely more interesting than Gore in 2000.

Carter was quite exciting when he first burst on the scene. He gave an interview to Playboy, remember. He lusted after women in his heart. And there was all that born again business.

Gerald Ford's boring presentation undermined someone who in retrospect was not a bad President at all, considering everything. I'd take him and his competence today in a heartbeat, Panama Canal Treaty and all.

Pincher Martin -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 05:50:18 AM -- 5690 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

"Interesting" in the context of a discussion on Trump's candidacy makes the term seem value-neutral to me, even given your claim that it's predictive of victory.

I agree that Nixon and LBJ were both very interesting people, but their most interesting features were hidden away from the public and not on display in their campaigns, which kind of makes it difficult to say that those interesting characteristics were responsible for their electoral victories.

Goldwater, on the other hand, was interesting in the way Trump is interesting - he just said what was on his mind with little in the way of a filter.

McGovern was different. A dull man with a breathtaking agenda. Sort of like Bernie Sanders. So I would still go with McGovern over Nixon.

Pincher Martin -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 05:52:31 AM -- 5691 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

As for Bush/Gore and Carter/Ford, the two elections were so close and the four men so dull that it doesn't make it worthwhile advancing a strong argument for either case. Suffice it to say that when two dull men run for president, you get a close election in which not many voters care about the outcome (proven by the fact turnout was so low despite the closeness of the two elections).

Pincher Martin -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 07:07:26 PM -- 5692 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

Given the recent discussion, I thought this was apropos.

This anxiety has got to be channeled, and dealt with with solutions instead of just amplified and accelerated and exacerbating it. How do you fix that? I think leaders fix this. We haven’t had that kind of leadership lately. Leaders need to say, “Here’s my principle, here’s my solution and let’s try and do it in a way that is inclusive, that’s optimistic, that aspirational and that’s focusing on solutions.” And so that’s the choice you’ll have, far more than personality. Republicans lose personality contests anyway. We always do. But we win ideas contests. We owe you that choice.
Aaron Burr -- Wednesday, May 25, 2016 -- 07:28:51 PM -- 5693 of 5701

The music is too much.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, June 02, 2016 -- 06:14:41 PM -- 5694 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

"It's over, Anakin. I have the high ground."

Nicholas Kronos -- Saturday, June 18, 2016 -- 06:59:25 PM -- 5695 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

With Trump it's dog crap all the way down

I don't know that I believe Sheen's story--at least not the way he tells it. But if it's not true in its essence, I'm sure he'll be hearing from Drumpf's busy lawyers.

Pincher Martin -- Thursday, June 23, 2016 -- 11:19:29 PM -- 5696 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

Yet anther reason to loathe Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Arnold Schwarzenegger exploited his celebrity and movie catchphrases to get himself elected governor of California then proceeded to accomplish absolutely nothing during his term of service. The Keebler elves worked more magic than Schwarzenegger who discovered environmentalism as an excuse to fly his private jet to locales anywhere but Sacramento. Schwarzenegger has stuck with the cutting back for thee but not for me celebrity paucity campaigns, including this bit to encourage people to eat less meat to combat global warming....
Schwarzengger and director James Cameron agreed to produce a "Less Meat, Less Heat" commercial for the U.S. that will remind people that if you eat a burger, you're dooming Schwarzenegger to banging fat house keepers and shooting roids in a barren blazing hot landscape of the future. Naturally, all shot in a massively air-conditioned and artificially lit sound stage in Hollywood, because shooting out in the currently existing desert two hours away seemed a sweaty inconvenience.
Sterling Dingleberry -- Friday, June 24, 2016 -- 12:55:13 AM -- 5697 of 5701
Jesus loves liberals. However, the rest of us know they are complete assholes.

Me and my significant other have been traveling the past three weeks throughout California and Nevada. We've been in some disparate areas/places -- Palm Springs, LA, Monterey Bay, SF Bay, Napa, Sacramento, Reno/Tahoe, Eastern Sierra, and now Vegas.

Without a doubt, from a political standpoint, the most fucked up people/places/things were in LA.

Specifically, the LA media, and those they cover (CA politicians and "entertainers"), are self-sanctimonious vacuous idiots who are completely divorced from reality.

Pincher Martin -- Friday, June 24, 2016 -- 04:41:58 AM -- 5698 of 5701
"We are now so stultified in our thinking and so priggish in our expressions that it becomes unavoidably offensive to tell the truth." -- Johann Georg Hamann

Sterling,

I replied here.

Nicholas Kronos -- Thursday, July 07, 2016 -- 01:41:13 PM -- 5699 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

jenrenton -- Saturday, July 09, 2016 -- 05:13:21 PM -- 5700 of 5701
I myself have a quarrelsome and disputatious nature.

Yikes!

Nicholas Kronos -- Monday, August 15, 2016 -- 07:47:25 PM -- 5701 of 5701
Quoting the actual words of Trump is an unfair tactic because he inevitably sounds like an idiot about any subject on which he speaks.

Melania Trump Stumbles Upon Dozens Of Husband’s Haunting, Macabre Self-Portraits

Melania described earlier paintings that merely show Donald staring into a mirror and weeping, or crouched alone and naked beneath a charred tree in a forest burned to ash. But a later series reportedly depicts him in the process of shrinking away to nothing: In the first, the twisted, ghostly form of his body looms large above a city skyline, his eyes glassy and lifeless and his face evidently smeared with his own fecal waste; several portraits later, he appears as a pale, shriveled, barely human creature as a tide of blood washes him down a storm drain.
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