Politics for DilettantesKawaii -- Wednesday, October 08, 2003 -- 10:08:43 PM
Apathetic? Uninformed? Don't even vote? Have your bread and want your circus?This thread is tagged: politics, republicans, democrats
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I do see an effect, but I want it to be shrewd political prowess. Charisma makes it seem too much like they just got lucky.
edit: what good would it be to disguise yourself if everyone can tell who you are? Maybe he is Gore.
I jump between the far-right and far-left, depending on the issue. And I can't stand Bush. I know some people perceive him as a nice, upstanding, trustworthy guy, but for the life of me, I can't see it.
I took the political party quiz that's on the libertarian site, and came out 45% Dem, 45% Green. The other quiz pegged me as fiscally moderate and socially liberal. Knock me over with a feather; I thought I was moderate. I've voted for a few Republicans. I'm the most conservative person in my social group, except the mother of the Special Forces soldier. I guess I'm what passes for moderate in the SF Bay Area.
I try to read the propositions, but they confuse me by obscuring the interests, so I vote no.
I don't trust Bush instinctively, and I don't see the charisma. I'm a sucker for a good speaker; that's how Clinton sucked me in.
As of 1:30 Tuesday morning, I was waffling on who to vote for to replace Gray Davis.
I think Reagan was the original Teflon President, but Clinton took it to new heights.
Me neither, Catgirl.
I was thinking the same thing.
I am uninformed about politics because whenever I think I want to know about an issue, I feel like the only information I can access is slanted one way or another to such an extreme that I never get the sense that I have any fucking clue what really happened (or is happening). It makes me crazy, so I bury my head in the sand.
I didn't really start reading about politics until the 2000 election, the first one I could vote in. I would love to be reasonably well informed on most issues but eventually my head starts spinning. The one issue I am passionate about is terrorism/war in iraq/etc. I lurk in the politics threads hoping to learn more.
Great thread. I'm in. Can we add uninformed to the list? I have a lot of opinions about how things should be, but I can't be bothered to wade through all of the yammering on either side to feel like I'm informed enough to participate in any of the politics threads.
The Bush/Clinton comparison is interesting. Clinton was such a shameless opportunist and horndog, but he was smart and he was an effective politician. If Bush is as opportunistic he's cagier about it, and he's not smart and not a horndog that we know of. He seems like a nice guy, but I haven't seen any evidence that he's a particularly effective president. He seems in over his head.
His handling of Iraq seems typical: he had the right idea, but he could't persuade the Europeans to sign on to the deal. So he made a pretty risky decision: to go in without the UN, and now he's having to go beg for help. He looks like a dork. It would have made more sense to me to wait a bit or provide better evidence to the Euros before going in, or to just handle the aftermath (occupationa and reconstruction) alone without requesting assistance after the fact.
I don't think Bush seems like a nice guy at all. Remember when he got pissy about a reporter speaking to Chirac in French? He's a nickname-bestowing, smirky ass who thinks he's following a moral code of which Jesus would approve. I strongly disagree, but my thinking is too amorphous and emotion-driven to form a coherent argument. I'm wishy-washy about capital punishment, too. Boy, was this thread made expressly for me?
I am uninformed about politics because whenever I think I want to know about an issue, I feel like the only information I can access is slanted one way or another to such an extreme that I never get the sense that I have any fucking clue what really happened (or is happening).
Yes. Yes. Yes.
If Bush is as opportunistic he's cagier about it, and he's not smart
He doesn't have to be so opportunistic because he was born to be an American prince, just like his father and his brothers. Clinton had to work his way up.
And he is every bit as smart as Clinton (Bill, that is, not the Senator). Plus he can fly a combat jet, which is way cool. And he is a recovering substance abuser, which knocks the edges of his patrician background.
I am registered as a member of the Random Surrealist Party, which is the sort of thing that can seem like a good idea when you're 18. What I mostly am is a half-assed liberal. I ignore politics until it's time to vote, and then I just read the pamphlet and abstain on anything I can't understand after reading it. I'd like to care more, but dang, who has time?
I guess I care about politics (although I can't care much, if I phrase it like that), but I just don't have the time or energy to back up my rambling opinions with cites or facts or anything. I'm only mildly annoyed that they've scheduled the upcoming Democrats' debate against "Friends" and "Survivor" -- I'm TiVo'ing both shows, so guess I'm missing the debate! This thread is perfect for me!
I guess I'd describe myself as a centrist Democrat -- I'm socially pretty liberal, don't mind paying taxes so much, but I'm anti-union and I have lots of guns in my basement (ALL LEGAL). I'm all for telling people to go out and get a damn job rather than live on the public teat. I'm even wishy-washy on taxes -- I'd like us to find some happy medium of cutting taxes a little bit and cutting spending some, too. I was for the war in Iraq, but I'd feel better if I thought the powers that be had some idea of when we're getting out of there.
I hate Bush with the fire of a thousand nuns (read that somewhere), but it has nothing to do with stealing elections or the fact that he is a Republican. He's just so damn stupid. I can't respect a President who makes it a point of pride that he doesn't like to read; it isn't just that he isn't an intellectual, but that he appears to be actively hostile to intellectualism. Dude, books is good.
I'm interested in Clark's candidacy, but his campaign suddenly has all of these problems popping up, so that doesn't bode well. Not a fan of Dean, or Lieberman, or Kerry, or Gephardt, but will vote for one of them if I have to choose between that person and Bush. Will move to Canada if either Al Sharpton or Carol Mosley-Braun get elected (empty threat, I know), but I truly enjoy listening to Al debate.
These aren't the survey stuff for my school work, but more general surveys on politics. The two I'm interested in are the Spellacy Poll and the abortion poll. I'm going to create a few others, too. Please take the time to respond. (Don't do the California one, please!)
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