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Politics for Dilettantes
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Politics for Dilettantes

Kawaii -- Wednesday, October 08, 2003 -- 10:08:43 PM

Apathetic? Uninformed? Don't even vote? Have your bread and want your circus?

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Brigit M -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:21:55 AM -- 21 of 5401

Well, I don't care only because neither of them ever struck *me* as a particularly nice guy. I may have odd standards, though.

Kawaii -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:29:31 AM -- 22 of 5401
Confidence is what you had before you understood the situation.

I don't intended at all to be a safe place for the those of liberal tendencies and this isn't moderated, no one is going to be yanking any posts to protect sensitivities.

I never found Clinton or Bush to be particularly likeable or trustworthy. I don't think they are evil, but I don't sense the magic of their charisma.

edit: heh, Brigit. Me too.

Weaver -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:30:06 AM -- 23 of 5401

Well, I don't care only because neither of them ever struck *me* as a particularly nice guy.

That's because neither one ever posted on TPW. But if they did, I'm pretty sure you would like them.

Weaver -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:30:48 AM -- 24 of 5401

I don't sense the magic of their charisma.

But you see the effect, don't you?

Kawaii -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:31:13 AM -- 25 of 5401
Confidence is what you had before you understood the situation.

How do we they haven't posted? bushmaster may be Clinton incognito.

Weaver -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:35:50 AM -- 26 of 5401

Goodness no. Nobody actually likes bushmaster, not even LB. Nor does anybody really despise him. He is completely in Jexter territory. Can't be Clinton.

Kawaii -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:36:29 AM -- 27 of 5401
Confidence is what you had before you understood the situation.

I do see an effect, but I want it to be shrewd political prowess. Charisma makes it seem too much like they just got lucky.

edit: what good would it be to disguise yourself if everyone can tell who you are? Maybe he is Gore.

Weaver -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 12:37:12 AM -- 28 of 5401

Ooh, that was funny.

Kawaii -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 01:11:58 AM -- 29 of 5401
Confidence is what you had before you understood the situation.

Y'know. Someone could have mentioned that this was discussed a few weeks ago elsewhere.

Bingo -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 01:15:48 AM -- 30 of 5401

I'm uninformed and didn't know it was discussed elsewhere.

sohcahtoa -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 01:20:54 AM -- 31 of 5401

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Bingo -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 01:28:29 AM -- 32 of 5401

I am a registered Democrat who votes, but I skim boring policy articles. I like to read nice little feature stories about the candidates' kids. I'm only partly kidding.

Kawaii -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 01:43:32 AM -- 33 of 5401
Confidence is what you had before you understood the situation.

Welcome. I just saw in the enough already thread some posts about rabid antibushism.

Eustacia -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 02:04:08 AM -- 34 of 5401
Krusticus Rex

I'm here, right-leaning lefty that I am.

Bingo -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 02:25:47 AM -- 35 of 5401

I can't stand Bush. I'm a left-leaning lefty.

Catgirl -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 03:00:58 AM -- 36 of 5401
popping in here and there

I jump between the far-right and far-left, depending on the issue. And I can't stand Bush. I know some people perceive him as a nice, upstanding, trustworthy guy, but for the life of me, I can't see it.

Kate D -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 03:28:46 AM -- 37 of 5401
What will it profit a man to gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

I took the political party quiz that's on the libertarian site, and came out 45% Dem, 45% Green. The other quiz pegged me as fiscally moderate and socially liberal. Knock me over with a feather; I thought I was moderate. I've voted for a few Republicans. I'm the most conservative person in my social group, except the mother of the Special Forces soldier. I guess I'm what passes for moderate in the SF Bay Area.

I try to read the propositions, but they confuse me by obscuring the interests, so I vote no.

I don't trust Bush instinctively, and I don't see the charisma. I'm a sucker for a good speaker; that's how Clinton sucked me in.

As of 1:30 Tuesday morning, I was waffling on who to vote for to replace Gray Davis.

I think Reagan was the original Teflon President, but Clinton took it to new heights.

Nicola O. -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 03:35:51 AM -- 38 of 5401
my blog: http://alphaheroes.blogspot.com

I know some people perceive him as a nice, upstanding, trustworthy guy, but for the life of me, I can't see it.

Me neither, Catgirl.

I think Reagan was the original Teflon President, but Clinton took it to new heights.

I was thinking the same thing.

I am uninformed about politics because whenever I think I want to know about an issue, I feel like the only information I can access is slanted one way or another to such an extreme that I never get the sense that I have any fucking clue what really happened (or is happening). It makes me crazy, so I bury my head in the sand.

bessy -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 03:42:46 AM -- 39 of 5401
You were chained to a girl who would kill you with a look/It's a nice way to die, she's so easy on the eyes/She said "Let's get away" but you played it by the book/You're a warden's pet, she's a screaming suffragette

I didn't really start reading about politics until the 2000 election, the first one I could vote in. I would love to be reasonably well informed on most issues but eventually my head starts spinning. The one issue I am passionate about is terrorism/war in iraq/etc. I lurk in the politics threads hoping to learn more.

dirt track date -- Thursday, October 09, 2003 -- 03:44:10 AM -- 40 of 5401
Shit is fucked up and bullshit

Great thread. I'm in. Can we add uninformed to the list? I have a lot of opinions about how things should be, but I can't be bothered to wade through all of the yammering on either side to feel like I'm informed enough to participate in any of the politics threads.

The Bush/Clinton comparison is interesting. Clinton was such a shameless opportunist and horndog, but he was smart and he was an effective politician. If Bush is as opportunistic he's cagier about it, and he's not smart and not a horndog that we know of. He seems like a nice guy, but I haven't seen any evidence that he's a particularly effective president. He seems in over his head.

His handling of Iraq seems typical: he had the right idea, but he could't persuade the Europeans to sign on to the deal. So he made a pretty risky decision: to go in without the UN, and now he's having to go beg for help. He looks like a dork. It would have made more sense to me to wait a bit or provide better evidence to the Euros before going in, or to just handle the aftermath (occupationa and reconstruction) alone without requesting assistance after the fact.

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